Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

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Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby Tanukimo » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:40 am

I am about to attempt a golden ale using only pilsner malt as an AG batch with the BIAB method-
Just wondering any thoughts or suggestions you guys have to get more color and body than a typical pils?
I thought of toasting some of the malt or adding a wee bit of BBi malt extract for some color-
Also putting a pound of oats or more in their in hopes to increase body...
Haven't made up a full recipe yet as I'm hoping for some advice from the forum!
I have a surplus of pils malt from Sunchiro (Thank you!) and don't really want to brew a pilsner...
will also try to spice this one with a little ginger and lime-
Thanks in advance for any recipe suggestions!!
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby sunchiro » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:59 am

Try this site, their calculator are quite good http://beercalculus.hopville.com/recipe and this site http://barleypopmaker.info/2009/12/08/h ... our-malts/ . I wanna show you my toast malt that day but I'm in a hurry so sorry for that :oops:
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby rowan » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:13 pm

a long and aggressive boil on some or all the wort will help give colour and body
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby rowan » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:14 pm

If the malt is not crushed yet you can make your own crystal malt from pilsner malt too.
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby Tanukimo » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:40 pm

the malt isn't crushed so I'll read up on toasting it and how to make crystal too= and a long aggressive boil is easy enough to do=
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby badlee » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:11 pm

What you could do is take some of the wort, say a few ltrs,after 40 mins or so and boil it like hell untill the rest of the wort is at a boil and then add the smaller volume to the rest. This should add plenty of colour and caramel/crystal profile :D
OR you could use some brown sugar.
OR you could roast so wet to get a smooth crystal.
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby Tanukimo » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:44 pm

All great ideas! Have to get brewing and try a few of these= an early partial boil sounds easy enough to get some extra color and flavor in there=
so that would be a simple decoction method?
Think I'll give it a try=
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Re: Golden Ale= pilsner malt..? help!

Postby rowan » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:03 pm

Do you get rice cookers that are like little electrically heated pots with a lid in Thailand? I've made crystal malt in one of them using the warm setting before, they handily hold the temp at 70C perfect for crystal malt. Just mix and equal weight and volume of hot water and grain (e.g. 1l with 1kg or whatever) aim for a temperature of 70c (use whatever brewing calculator you like to work out strike temp. Mash it for an hour at 70c then either roast it in the oven or dry on sheets of card and roast it on the hob. Cut open a grain now and then to check the colour as it's hard to see from the outside of the grain.
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